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Posted 11 October 2011 - 01:31 PM

I have sent out a few emails today, but thought I would open this discussion up to everyone, since I think there might be more insight here:

http://www.4x4labs.c...sions/om617w56/

Is the Toyota 5-Speed and Transfer Case strong enough to move around a Land Cruiser? I have a Mercedes Turbo Diesel sitting in the shop, and actually have FJ40 Rob's Ranger Overdrive Unit I was planning on running in this combination, however, this new development might change some plans.

This is what I was thinking. First off, Toyota Pickup gearing options are just short of unlimited. It is fairly inexpensive (compared to other gearing options) to get lower gearing from a Toyota Pickup. You can double and triple transfer case for pretty cheap, compared to crawl boxes, lower gears, ect...This also opens my possibilities on running a Dana 60 in the rear, as the diff is centered.

My only question is whether this combination is strong enough for a Land Cruiser....
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 02:37 PM

You need to find out if it will hold up behind the diesel motor.
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 05:06 PM

View Postmwilley, on 11 October 2011 - 01:31 PM, said:

I have sent out a few emails today, but thought I would open this discussion up to everyone, since I think there might be more insight here:

http://www.4x4labs.c...sions/om617w56/

Is the Toyota 5-Speed and Transfer Case strong enough to move around a Land Cruiser? I have a Mercedes Turbo Diesel sitting in the shop, and actually have FJ40 Rob's Ranger Overdrive Unit I was planning on running in this combination, however, this new development might change some plans.

This is what I was thinking. First off, Toyota Pickup gearing options are just short of unlimited. It is fairly inexpensive (compared to other gearing options) to get lower gearing from a Toyota Pickup. You can double and triple transfer case for pretty cheap, compared to crawl boxes, lower gears, ect...This also opens my possibilities on running a Dana 60 in the rear, as the diff is centered.

My only question is whether this combination is strong enough for a Land Cruiser....


Your on the right track I think the W56 5-speed is just fine for the LC
that tranny is used in the 4cyl and v6 models I don't see a problem

And your right It's cheeper to use PU parts then LC parts
I have a w56 5-speed Dual/case's 2.8 and 4.7 that give's me 206 to 1 final drive.
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 06:30 PM

View Postrwilley, on 11 October 2011 - 02:37 PM, said:

You need to find out if it will hold up behind the diesel motor.


Apparently Luke at 4x4 Labs believes it will. This is the only Toyota Transmission to which this conversation is available.

I also do not believe the Mercedes transmissions were built any better....
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 06:36 PM

what are the specs on the motors?trq?
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 07:24 PM

View Postmwilley, on 11 October 2011 - 06:30 PM, said:

Apparently Luke at 4x4 Labs believes it will. This is the only Toyota Transmission to which this conversation is available.

I also do not believe the Mercedes transmissions were built any better....


I think you'll be good to use Toyota trans I don't think Mercedes built anything good :banghead:
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Posted 12 October 2011 - 12:24 PM

View Postrsc71, on 11 October 2011 - 06:36 PM, said:

what are the specs on the motors?trq?


Wikipedia says:
Power output was 125 hp (91 kW). Torque was rated at 180 lb·ft (244 N·m)
I believe this is at 2400 rpm or so...

After reviewing this guys threat at Pirate, I am convinced that I need to be running an over drive, however, I am stuck on how I can obtain lower gearing. I almost need to just bite the bullet and get a NV4500 with the 4:1 low gears in the FJ60 split case I have....

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 12:49 PM

I need to log this brainstorm here:

If I run:
1992-1994 RPO MT8 GM-NV4500 6.34:1
NP203 coupled to: 2:1
Jeep Dana 300 4:1 Gearing
Dana 60 Rear 4:10
Total Crawl Ratio 208:1

I know guys, the Dana 300 is a Jeep part, however, my roommate has one in his '69 Bronco and it seem pretty strong.

I think this set-up with be much stronger than the Toyota Pickup stuff...now I just need to start collecting these parts....
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