[theoii]

Well I haven't been able to get out as much as I had hoped and meet the local LC owners but I still want to. I am working on my project one step at a time.
Pictures

I haven't updated pictures recently as I have finished rear disc brakes and then cleaned and painted the axle. I stripped the front axle to get ready for paint and hopefully front discs. I also recently went through the transfer case so it is back together. I have some wants in the wanted section but the transfer case rebuild overall is a very fun project and recommend it to everyone.

[Storm]

good to hear your still at it

[mwilley]

did you get your disc brake outters yet? rwilley has some if you are interested, you will have to contact him for the price.

[theoii]

mwilley, on Jul 15 2009, 10:36 PM, said:

did you get your disc brake outters yet? rwilley has some if you are interested, you will have to contact him for the price.

Well I talked to rwilley and I am still intersted in them, but I brought my axle into the garage today and pulled one side apart and found Ball and Claw axles. I am trying to find out what I will need to swap it out. Anybody have any insight? Thanks in advance.

[rwilley]

theoii, on Jul 17 2009, 08:01 PM, said:

Well I talked to rwilley and I am still intersted in them, but I brought my axle into the garage today and pulled one side apart and found Ball and Claw axles. I am trying to find out what I will need to swap it out. Anybody have any insight? Thanks in advance.

I just happen to have the axle you are in need of and I can probly make you a good deal.

[rsc71]

theoii, on Jul 17 2009, 08:01 PM, said:

Well I talked to rwilley and I am still intersted in them, but I brought my axle into the garage today and pulled one side apart and found Ball and Claw axles. I am trying to find out what I will need to swap it out. Anybody have any insight? Thanks in advance.

i got one out of a 69 that would make a good doner axle for a disk brake swap.65 bucks if you are interested

[theoii]

rsc71, on Jul 18 2009, 04:51 AM, said:

i got one out of a 69 that would make a good doner axle for a disk brake swap.65 bucks if you are interested

Wouldn't that have the same ball and claw axles?

[theoii]

rwilley, on Jul 17 2009, 10:04 PM, said:

I just happen to have the axle you are in need of and I can probly make you a good deal.

Hope you catch a foul ball and I will call you Sunday afternoon.

[rsc71]

theoii, on Jul 18 2009, 07:23 AM, said:

Wouldn't that have the same ball and claw axles?

nope....68 and older

[theoii]

rsc71, on Jul 18 2009, 10:14 AM, said:

nope....68 and older

I wasn't sure because I have a factory service manual for 1972-1974 and it says it could be either. I had never heard that before. How can I find out what year I have?

[rsc71]

theoii, on Jul 18 2009, 03:16 PM, said:

I wasn't sure because I have a factory service manual for 1972-1974 and it says it could be either. I had never heard that before. How can I find out what year I have?

axles never really had markings for years as far as i have heard

Regular Land Cruiser axle housings are similar to a Ford 9" and differential carriers are similar in construction to a Chevy 12bolt. The front and rear differential housings are both offset to the right in all models except some '58-62's which had centred rear differentials. They have an 9.5" ring gear. The axle shafts are 33mm in diameter (the same as a some Dana 60's) 1960-67 shafts had 10 coarse splines while 68 and later shafts have 30 fine splines. In 1968, the front axle CV joints changed from ball joints to Birfields.

There are two styles of rear axle used on Land Cruisers: semi-floating and full- floating.

All US-spec Land Cruisers before 1993 and most Canadian-spec Land Cruisers use semi-floating axle shafts. The one-piece axle shaft has a large flange on the outboard end that the wheel bolts. The are one axle bearing at each end of the axle tube that is lubricated by gear oil. The weight of the truck is supported by the axle shaft and then transmitted to the axle housing by the axle bearings and the differential carrier bearings. The axle shaft (and hence the wheels/tires) are retained in the axle housing by a C-clip on the inboard end of each axle. If the axle were to break, the axle/tire/wheel can leave the vehicle resulting in loss of control.

The front axles of all Land Cruisers are of the full floating design. The wheel bolts to a hub which is supported by a pair of tapered roller bearings that are in turn ride on a spindle. Early full floating rear axles were available in many markets outside North America, most notably Australia where C-clip equipped semi- floating axles were banned in 1974. It wasn't until 1993 that the full floating rear axle made an appearance in the United States under FZJ80s. Rear full Floating Axles have smaller shafts because the entire weight of the truck is bourne by the wheel bearings and the shaft itself is not loaded in flexure.

Light Duty axle housings are the same as those used in Toyota Pickup trucks. They feature a smaller housing constructed similarly to the heavy duty Land Cruiser. The ring gear is only 8" but the axle shafts are the same size and have the same number of splines as the regular Land Cruiser.

All solid axle Land Cruisers produced after February 1990 use a reverse-cut 8" ring gear in the front.

60/2 Series axles are 70mm wider than 40 series

70 Series axles are 20mm wider than 40 series
Axle codes are never located on the axle housings themselves. In trucks manufacturered after 1976, the axle codes are located on the build plate which can be found inside the engine compartment. The pinion (and sometimes the ring gear have the tooth counts (from which the ratio can be calculated) stamped into them.

For the 80 Series, the number of teeth on the ring and pinion were increased. While the earlier heavy-duty 4.11:1 gears had 37 teeth on the ring gear and 9 on the pinion, from 1990 on, the gears were actually 4.10:1 with 41 ring gear teeth and 10 pinion teeth.

Code Example:

K 08 2
9.5" ring gear 4.11 ring/pinion ratio 2 spider gears

First digit: ring gear size
G 8" Hilux and Light-duty LC
K 9.5" Regular LC

Second, third digits: ring/pinion gear ratio
(These numbers apply to ALL Toyota vehicles--known Land Cruiser ratios are indicated)

Code Ratio Teeth Heavy Duty Cruiser Light Duty Cruiser/Hilux 8" Reverse Cut
R P Toyota Aftermarket Toyota Aftermarket Toyota Aftermarket
01 3.30
02 3.36
03 3.545
04 3.556
05 3.70 37 10 X X
06 3.889
07 3.90 X
08 4.111 37 9 X X X
09 4.222
10 4.375
11 4.444
12 4.625
13 4.79
14 4.875 39 8 X X X X
15 5.125
16 5.286 X X X
17 5.60
18 5.714
19 5.833
20 6.167
21 6.667
22 6.78
23 6.833
24 7.64
25 4.556 41 9 X X X X X
26 5.571
27 3.364
28 4.30 43 10 X X
29 4.10 41 10 X X
30 3.727 41 11 X X
31 3.909
32 6.591 or 5.583
33 7.503 or 5.583
34 6.781 or 4.786
35 7.636 or 5.60
36 4.778
37 3.583
38 3.417

Fourth digit: number of spider gears, limited slip/locker
Code Spiders Differential
2 2 Open
3 2 Limited Slip
4 4 Locking Diff
5 4 Limited Slip

030223

http://www.cruiserfaq.com/09-02.php

Year * Model Brake Style Stock Locking Hub Outer Diameter Flats Distance Stub Length Outer Splines
Front Rear (mm) (mm) (mm)
68-75 All 2" Drum 2" Drum None 90.5 83.5 168 10
76-80 J40 302 x 20 Disc 2" Drum Warn 90.5 84.5 188 30
J45 3" Drum 3" Drum Aisin Med 90.5 84.5 188 30
J55 302 x 20 Disc 2" Drum Aisin Med 90.5 84.5 188 30
81-84 J4x 302 x 20 Disc 2" Drum Aisin Stub 90.5 86.5 178 30
81-89 J6x 302 x 20 Disc 2" Drum Aisin Stub 90.5 86.5 178 30
85-87 J7x 302 x 20 Disc 2" Drum Aisin Stub 90.5 86.5 178 30
79-85 Hilux 302 x 12.7 Disc Drum Aisin Stub 90.5 86.5 178 30
85 4Runner 203 x 12.7 Disc Drum Aisin Stub 90.5 86.5 178 30
91-92 J80 286 x 25 Disc Drum None
93-98 J80 311 x 58 Disc 336 x 18 Disc None 104.6 100.1 159# 30?

* Model Year, North America Only

# Bush face->inside of cir-clip groove

[rwilley]

rsc71, on Jul 18 2009, 06:07 PM, said:

axles never really had markings for years as far as i have heard

Regular Land Cruiser axle housings are similar to a Ford 9" and differential carriers are similar in construction to a Chevy 12bolt. The front and rear differential housings are both offset to the right in all models except some '58-62's which had centred rear differentials. They have an 9.5" ring gear. The axle shafts are 33mm in diameter (the same as a some Dana 60's) 1960-67 shafts had 10 coarse splines while 68 and later shafts have 30 fine splines. In 1968, the front axle CV joints changed from ball joints to Birfields.

There are two styles of rear axle used on Land Cruisers: semi-floating and full- floating.

All US-spec Land Cruisers before 1993 and most Canadian-spec Land Cruisers use semi-floating axle shafts. The one-piece axle shaft has a large flange on the outboard end that the wheel bolts. The are one axle bearing at each end of the axle tube that is lubricated by gear oil. The weight of the truck is supported by the axle shaft and then transmitted to the axle housing by the axle bearings and the differential carrier bearings. The axle shaft (and hence the wheels/tires) are retained in the axle housing by a C-clip on the inboard end of each axle. If the axle were to break, the axle/tire/wheel can leave the vehicle resulting in loss of control.

The front axles of all Land Cruisers are of the full floating design. The wheel bolts to a hub which is supported by a pair of tapered roller bearings that are in turn ride on a spindle. Early full floating rear axles were available in many markets outside North America, most notably Australia where C-clip equipped semi- floating axles were banned in 1974. It wasn't until 1993 that the full floating rear axle made an appearance in the United States under FZJ80s. Rear full Floating Axles have smaller shafts because the entire weight of the truck is bourne by the wheel bearings and the shaft itself is not loaded in flexure.

Light Duty axle housings are the same as those used in Toyota Pickup trucks. They feature a smaller housing constructed similarly to the heavy duty Land Cruiser. The ring gear is only 8" but the axle shafts are the same size and have the same number of splines as the regular Land Cruiser.

All solid axle Land Cruisers produced after February 1990 use a reverse-cut 8" ring gear in the front.

60/2 Series axles are 70mm wider than 40 series

70 Series axles are 20mm wider than 40 series
Axle codes are never located on the axle housings themselves. In trucks manufacturered after 1976, the axle codes are located on the build plate which can be found inside the engine compartment. The pinion (and sometimes the ring gear have the tooth counts (from which the ratio can be calculated) stamped into them.

For the 80 Series, the number of teeth on the ring and pinion were increased. While the earlier heavy-duty 4.11:1 gears had 37 teeth on the ring gear and 9 on the pinion, from 1990 on, the gears were actually 4.10:1 with 41 ring gear teeth and 10 pinion teeth.

Code Example:

K 08 2
9.5" ring gear 4.11 ring/pinion ratio 2 spider gears

First digit: ring gear size
G 8" Hilux and Light-duty LC
K 9.5" Regular LC

Second, third digits: ring/pinion gear ratio
(These numbers apply to ALL Toyota vehicles--known Land Cruiser ratios are indicated)

Code Ratio Teeth Heavy Duty Cruiser Light Duty Cruiser/Hilux 8" Reverse Cut
R P Toyota Aftermarket Toyota Aftermarket Toyota Aftermarket
01 3.30
02 3.36
03 3.545
04 3.556
05 3.70 37 10 X X
06 3.889
07 3.90 X
08 4.111 37 9 X X X
09 4.222
10 4.375
11 4.444
12 4.625
13 4.79
14 4.875 39 8 X X X X
15 5.125
16 5.286 X X X
17 5.60
18 5.714
19 5.833
20 6.167
21 6.667
22 6.78
23 6.833
24 7.64
25 4.556 41 9 X X X X X
26 5.571
27 3.364
28 4.30 43 10 X X
29 4.10 41 10 X X
30 3.727 41 11 X X
31 3.909
32 6.591 or 5.583
33 7.503 or 5.583
34 6.781 or 4.786
35 7.636 or 5.60
36 4.778
37 3.583
38 3.417

Fourth digit: number of spider gears, limited slip/locker
Code Spiders Differential
2 2 Open
3 2 Limited Slip
4 4 Locking Diff
5 4 Limited Slip

030223

http://www.cruiserfaq.com/09-02.php

Year * Model Brake Style Stock Locking Hub Outer Diameter Flats Distance Stub Length Outer Splines
Front Rear (mm) (mm) (mm)
68-75 All 2" Drum 2" Drum None 90.5 83.5 168 10
76-80 J40 302 x 20 Disc 2" Drum Warn 90.5 84.5 188 30
J45 3" Drum 3" Drum Aisin Med 90.5 84.5 188 30
J55 302 x 20 Disc 2" Drum Aisin Med 90.5 84.5 188 30
81-84 J4x 302 x 20 Disc 2" Drum Aisin Stub 90.5 86.5 178 30
81-89 J6x 302 x 20 Disc 2" Drum Aisin Stub 90.5 86.5 178 30
85-87 J7x 302 x 20 Disc 2" Drum Aisin Stub 90.5 86.5 178 30
79-85 Hilux 302 x 12.7 Disc Drum Aisin Stub 90.5 86.5 178 30
85 4Runner 203 x 12.7 Disc Drum Aisin Stub 90.5 86.5 178 30
91-92 J80 286 x 25 Disc Drum None
93-98 J80 311 x 58 Disc 336 x 18 Disc None 104.6 100.1 159# 30?

* Model Year, North America Only

# Bush face->inside of cir-clip groove

I guess thats everything you wanted to know about landcruiser axles but were afraid to ask.

[rwilley]

theoii, on Jul 18 2009, 07:25 AM, said:

Hope you catch a foul ball and I will call you Sunday afternoon.

No foul balls but the A's made some good bloopers for the highlite reel.

I should be home after noon tomorrow.

[rsc71]

rwilley, on Jul 18 2009, 09:53 PM, said:

I guess thats everything you wanted to know about landcruiser axles but were afraid to ask.

there are other tid bits if you really want them

40 short is the same as 60 short.
60 long is the same as mini long.
the 40 long is exclusive to the 40s.
the mini short is exclusive to the minis.

all LC up to 75 had drum brakes on trhe front axle.
pre 69 40's used the ball and claw instead of the birfs
69 to 76 had 10 spline stub shafts(birfs) and course spline pinions.
76-78 use a unique length and diameter Birfield and locking hub
77 & 78 had longer stubshafts then the later stub shafts.
All LC diffs use the c-clip except the front and flull float axles.

[theoii]

My wife is getting excited (and so am I). My project is on 4 rolling wheels and soon it will roll out of the garage. Going to start mocking up the mounts for the engine trans and transfer case by the end of the month. Need to set the drive-train in and set the body back on to line everything up. I will post before and after pictures as I go along.

[rsc71]

[rwilley]

rsc71, on 04 September 2009 - 06:28 AM, said:

I seem to remember you posting this picture before therefore your post does not count.

[rsc71]

rwilley, on 04 September 2009 - 03:05 PM, said:

I seem to remember you posting this picture before therefore your post does not count.

not in this thread :P

[radardog]

rsc71, on 04 September 2009 - 03:23 PM, said:

not in this thread :P

Yeah, it isn't like we havn't seen a cruiser before....

[theoii]

Okay I give up. I finally got some more pictures. okay it is only three more pictures but it rolls and by next weekend (9/19) I hope to be finalizing the mounts. I need to set the engine in, set the body on and then set where I need to weld on the mounts for the transfer case. Hopefully my buddy can come over and weld on the scab plates and brackets. My welder is too small for that thickness.
And before someone says some thing about my routing of my brake lines I know I need to shorten and reroute. I had them pretty neat until I remembered the bump-stops and the lines were in the way.
Here is the page for my pictures GO HERE