[FJ40Rob]

Thinking about trading my auto trans, 4 a LC 4-speed w/a ranger over/drive? I can get all I
need to do the swop trans t-case drivelines ex.. Pro's and con's anyone...


Hey RW are you going to bring me some parts for paint soon...

This post has been edited by FJ40Rob: 26 April 2009 - 06:36 PM

[68cruiser]

If you can get all you need to do the swap ,and you want a 4 speed thats a good thing RIGHT ? give me a call lets set up a date when we can do it

[FJ40Rob]

68cruiser, on Apr 26 2009, 09:18 PM, said:

If you can get all you need to do the swap ,and you want a 4 speed thats a good thing RIGHT ? give me a call lets set up a date when we can do it

I sent you a PM, I'll call you tomorrow or I'll come by after work

[rsc71]

what is the ratio for 1st gear?most will opt for a 420 or 465 for a better crawl ratio

[Storm]

Model Ratio
T18 6.32,3.09,1.69,1.00
T19 5.11,3.03,1.79,1.00
T98 6.40,3.09,1.69,1.00
FORD A4OD 2.40,1.47,1.00,0.71
FORD E4OD 2.71,1.53,1.00,0.67
SM420 7.02,3.57,1.70,1.00
SM465 6.55,3.58,1.57,1.00
GM 4500 6.34,3.44,1.71,1.00,0.73
DODGE NV4500 5.61,3.04,1.67,1.00,0.73
700R4 3.06,1.63,1.00,0.70
4L80-E 2.48,1.48,1.00,0.75
TF727 2.45,1.45,1.00
A-518 2.45,1.45,1.00,0.69
TH350 2.52,1.52,1.00
TH400 2.48,1.48,1.00
C6 2.46,1.46,1.00
GM NP435 6.50,3.34,1.79,1.00
DODGE NP435 6.68,3,34,1.66,1.00
FORD NP435 6.69,3.34,1.79,1.00
TOYOTA W-56 3.95,2.74,1.33,1.00,0.83
TOYOTA R151F 4.31,2.74,1.33,1.00,0.83

[rwilley]

rsc71, on Apr 27 2009, 04:44 AM, said:

what is the ratio for 1st gear?most will opt for a 420 or 465 for a better crawl ratio

The US. toyota 4 speed is 3.5 to 1 in 1st gear. That would be the only con that I can think of is your crawl ratio would'nt be very low; if your concerned with that kind of thing.

[rwilley]

FJ40Rob, on Apr 26 2009, 07:34 PM, said:

Hey RW are you going to bring me some parts for paint soon...

I got my cruiser all wired and guages, starter, header, motor mount, and leaky gaskets installed so I should be able to start on that this week. I'll try to get down there on your days off.

[FJ40Rob]

rwilley, on Apr 27 2009, 03:23 PM, said:

I got my cruiser all wired and guages, starter, header, motor mount, and leaky gaskets installed so I should be able to start on that this week. I'll try to get down there on your days off.

OK I think we are doing the trans swop so I'll be here ..


I just want to go with the 4-speed so I'll look for a sm420 or 65 later the auto runs to hot for my liking with the 36's and like MW said If your bat, go's bad you can still starte your rig and for a better crawl...

[FJ40Rob]

Storm, on Apr 27 2009, 05:47 AM, said:

Model Ratio
T18 6.32,3.09,1.69,1.00
T19 5.11,3.03,1.79,1.00
T98 6.40,3.09,1.69,1.00
FORD A4OD 2.40,1.47,1.00,0.71
FORD E4OD 2.71,1.53,1.00,0.67
SM420 7.02,3.57,1.70,1.00
SM465 6.55,3.58,1.57,1.00
GM 4500 6.34,3.44,1.71,1.00,0.73
DODGE NV4500 5.61,3.04,1.67,1.00,0.73
700R4 3.06,1.63,1.00,0.70
4L80-E 2.48,1.48,1.00,0.75
TF727 2.45,1.45,1.00
A-518 2.45,1.45,1.00,0.69
TH350 2.52,1.52,1.00
TH400 2.48,1.48,1.00
C6 2.46,1.46,1.00
GM NP435 6.50,3.34,1.79,1.00
DODGE NP435 6.68,3,34,1.66,1.00
FORD NP435 6.69,3.34,1.79,1.00
TOYOTA W-56 3.95,2.74,1.33,1.00,0.83
TOYOTA R151F 4.31,2.74,1.33,1.00,0.83

Don't know what one it is but i think i'll like it better .. I do know the sm465 is stronger but the 420 has a better crawl ratio.

[rwilley]

FJ40Rob, on Apr 27 2009, 05:26 PM, said:

Don't know what one it is but i think i'll like it better .. I do know the sm465 is stronger but the 420 has a better crawl ratio.

I'm guessing you have the H41 which I think is the only one they put in the US models. It's the same one Mwilley has in his cruiser. I think the best thing would be to find a 5 speed.

[mwilley]

I dont know how much that over drive is, and I am thinking it might be pretty expensive, but you can get a Non-USA toyota 5-speed with a 5 to 1 first gear for $1,000 from Man-a-fre. You will also need a bell housing, but it uses the same advanced adapters bell housing as the 4-speed.

I think the SM465 will be fine. I believe first gear is 6.5 to 1 instead of 7 to 1 with the SM420. I do know that the SM465 shifts better, which is why I would recommend that one.

[FJ40Rob]

mwilley, on Apr 28 2009, 08:56 AM, said:

I dont know how much that over drive is, and I am thinking it might be pretty expensive, but you can get a Non-USA toyota 5-speed with a 5 to 1 first gear for $1,000 from Man-a-fre. You will also need a bell housing, but it uses the same advanced adapters bell housing as the 4-speed.

I think the SM465 will be fine. I believe first gear is 6.5 to 1 instead of 7 to 1 with the SM420. I do know that the SM465 shifts better, which is why I would recommend that one.

I have all the 4-speed stuff coming I'll work on the 420 or 465 latter, And for a $1000 I would get some lookers

How's the new job? thay must have you working real hard hav'nt seen or heard from you in a long time..

This post has been edited by FJ40Rob: 28 April 2009 - 07:36 PM

[rwilley]

FJ40Rob, on Apr 28 2009, 08:25 PM, said:

How's the new job? thay must have you working real hard

You must be thinking of somebody else and not Mwilley.

[FJ40Rob]

rwilley, on Apr 28 2009, 08:56 PM, said:

You must be thinking of somebody else and not Mwilley.

Where's my head I must be . mwilley working

This post has been edited by FJ40Rob: 28 April 2009 - 08:01 PM

[mwilley]

Man, I am working really hard. I drive around for 8 hours a day and the pay me for it. Sometimes I get to put the 2007 Chevy 3/4 Ton Diesel in 4x4. On occasion I put it in 4x4 Low. It is pretty easy with just a touch of the ol' button...but if my work asks you, then tell them I work really hard....

[FJ40Rob]

Well got the auto in 68cruisers rig and will finish it up tomorrow, then start mine after ...

[FJ40Rob]

Took 3 days to finish 68cruiser's Cruiser,but he drove it home and we got my 4-speed and over-drive in my rig I'll finish it up this week after work..... Thanks Storm for your trans-jack and Richard for your expert spring hang'in help........And the ride to Storm's

This post has been edited by FJ40Rob: 02 May 2009 - 06:38 PM

[rwilley]

FJ40Rob, on May 2 2009, 07:38 PM, said:

Took 3 days to finish 68cruiser's Cruiser,but he drove it home and we got my 4-speed and over-drive in my rig I'll finish it up this week after work..... Thanks Storm for your trans-jack and Richard for your expert spring hang'in help........And the ride to Storm's

I knew you would get something done if I left.